Transcript Of Live Chat Part 2

Transcript of 's online chat during the Oct. 5, 2000, vice presidential candidates' debate, continued from part one


9:16:43 p.m. -- barbcsr:writtenby: aren't you a little mixed up? you got it backwards
9:16:45 p.m. -- srichards1:correct, aj95
9:16:49 p.m. -- PegLeg:Cheney Lieberman 2000!
9:16:52 p.m. -- dick661:If Bush is dumb - does that make Gore smart????? jeez louise
9:16:53 p.m. -- Piz:AJ, I am amazed that they are not taking shots at each other too
9:16:54 p.m. -- woohoopens:well Cheney is wrong because Republicans do have a lot to do with things because there was a
9:16:56 p.m. -- bmwebb:Cheney is really great and doing a good job with Lieberman, but I think Lynn Cheney's wife could really make him cry. Ha, Ha.
9:16:59 p.m. -- Rum221:Writtenb-Bush is not dumb he just tells it like it is. Something that Gore does not do.
9:17:03 p.m. -- BUSH42000:lieberman is going to make others laugh at us
9:17:04 p.m. -- ulby84:how many of you in the room will actually vote?
9:17:15 p.m. -- Piz:I will!
9:17:20 p.m. -- roxxis:i will
9:17:23 p.m. -- Dalios:I plan to vote.
9:17:25 p.m. -- weezeedeez:gotta go folks...VOTE BUSH/CHENEY
9:17:27 p.m. -- l1951:i will definitely be voting
9:17:28 p.m. -- Rum221:me to!
9:17:29 p.m. -- ulby84:i will
9:17:31 p.m. -- BUSH42000:i am defintely voting, no more should babies die
9:17:32 p.m. -- woohoopens:I certainly am voting and I'm picking up a lot of old people who can't drive to vote also.
9:17:34 p.m. -- dick661:i will
9:17:35 p.m. -- Silversun:I plan to
9:17:37 p.m. -- sho531:ulby I will
9:17:39 p.m. -- gabbie:VOTE
9:17:43 p.m. -- debate2000:hello
9:17:45 p.m. -- roxxis:bush/cheney
9:17:49 p.m. -- writtnby:Cheney is twice the man Bush is; big OIL money is the only reason W is a candidate.
9:17:52 p.m. -- la_bayou:I think one of them be pres. and the other vice pres.
9:17:54 p.m. -- aj95:this by far has been a better debate then the last one with Gore and Bush
9:17:57 p.m. -- writtnby:of course am voting
9:18:00 p.m. -- debate2000:hello
9:18:01 p.m. -- srichards1:anyways....both of these two have my respect
9:18:03 p.m. -- fuseman:Liebermans doing a Ross Perot
9:18:08 p.m. -- MODERATOR:How so, Fuse?
9:18:14 p.m. -- MODERATOR:Hello Debate2000
9:18:20 p.m. -- BUSH42000:BUSH/Cheney for 2000
9:18:22 p.m. -- woohoopens:the whole day I am transporting people to the polls.
9:18:23 p.m. -- RachelB:me vote
9:18:25 p.m. -- Silversun:lol
9:18:28 p.m. -- BUSH42000:if gore and lieberman win this country is going to straight to hell
9:18:30 p.m. -- gabbie:Lieberman is a flip-flop artist
9:18:33 p.m. -- woohoopens:this has been a good debate. You can see where they stand and Cheney filled in gaps Bush didn't understand.
9:18:36 p.m. -- bmwebb:I will, and my whole family will. And you can bet it won't be for the traitors who are in there now.
9:18:44 p.m. -- Dalios:True, but these guys get to sit down.. Gore and Bush had to stand up the whole time..heh
9:18:47 p.m. -- srichards1:can we right in that ticket? cheny/lieberman?
9:18:50 p.m. -- writtnby:other way around Bush42000
9:18:58 p.m. -- Piz:Hello Debate2000, we're talking about the VP debate going on right now
9:18:59 p.m. -- sdj001:Interesting comments - but the only choice for me is the Bush/Chaney ticket. Goodnight
9:19:01 p.m. -- fuseman:When he's asked a question he zeroes in on the camera and totally ignores Bernie And Dick
9:19:05 p.m. -- coinman:What a joke...Lets make another law to tell the cops not to pull someone over just cause he's blackk..Is this guy nuts???A cop pulls a black over because of the real facts of how many blacks are guilty..Sure its a shame it happens but a stupid law to make it illegal to do it is not going to work at all..They would just find another reason to pull them over..
9:19:09 p.m. -- lamrn:Lets talk about the wonderful changes to the Home Care Benefit, PPS, that was passed by Clinton and Gore going into effect October 1,2000. If this is an example of how they are protecting the elderly, they didn't do it here. All they did is make the Home Care owners richer and cut valuable services to the elderly.
9:19:11 p.m. -- roxxis:be fair woo, dont pick up just people who vote the way you want them to ;)
9:19:12 p.m. -- srichards1:oops ... right=write
9:19:14 p.m. -- BUSH42000:these liberal candidates with their gay promoting attitudes have got to go, its time for BUSH
9:19:16 p.m. -- la_bayou:When you send in the poll tell them forget Bush and Gore we want the se two
9:19:21 p.m. -- RachelB:Anyone, what does lol mean?
9:19:27 p.m. -- MODERATOR:Laughing Out Loud
9:19:31 p.m. -- gabbie:Racial profiling is another media ploy
9:19:38 p.m. -- woohoopens:now you're going to bash gays...geeze.
9:19:40 p.m. -- Silversun:Laugh out loud
9:19:41 p.m. -- RachelB:Thanks
9:19:50 p.m. -- roxxis:lol means laughing out loud
9:20:00 p.m. -- Silversun:rofl=rolling on floor laughing
9:20:05 p.m. -- coinman:lol means this debate
9:20:07 p.m. -- chooze:get
9:20:27 p.m. -- BUSH42000:what is this country coming to, gays getting married? Killing babies? its time for the republican to make things better
9:20:32 p.m. -- coinman:dadadadadadadadada
9:20:37 p.m. -- rademacher:Ok, folks. If you could each ask one question of these candidates, what ONE would that be?
9:20:57 p.m. -- MODERATOR:(Eric Rademacher is a University of Cincinnati political scientist and is co-director of the University of Cincinnati's Ohio Poll. Rademacher has extensive background on public opinion in Ohio and the U.S. He teaches presidential elections and public opinion at the University of Cincinnati.)
9:20:59 p.m. -- fuseman:Cheney has a great command of the facts;Joe seems to go for the warm fuzzies
9:21:03 p.m. -- woohoopens:this is interesting...since Cheney's daughter is gay - isn't she?
9:21:11 p.m. -- MODERATOR:That';s right, Woo
9:21:14 p.m. -- BUSH42000:freedom doesnt mean to let gays get married, what is cheney now saying
9:21:16 p.m. -- roxxis:if the democrats were so much into no penalizing tax-wize, why were the death-inheritance tax relief bill and the marriage relief bill both vetoed
9:21:35 p.m. -- Rum221:my question-How suited are you to be President if neded?
9:21:38 p.m. -- coinman:hell we are all gay when everything is going our way
9:21:39 p.m. -- BUSH42000:figures his daughter is gay
9:21:45 p.m. -- la_bayou:When will the people really have an outlet to get help
9:21:48 p.m. -- woohoopens:I think they both have great command of the facts tonight. I just like Lieberman's platform better.
9:21:49 p.m. -- Rum221:fuseman-you nailed it
9:21:51 p.m. -- roxxis:woo is cheney responsible for what his daughter is
9:21:54 p.m. -- woohoopens:good question Rum
9:21:56 p.m. -- roxxis:not me coin
9:21:56 p.m. -- roxxis:no way
9:22:16 p.m. -- coinman:that was a pun...I mean happy!!!!!
9:22:20 p.m. -- sho531:Clinton tried to move on the gay/lesbian issue and got burned . It would be nice to think these guys could make a difference but I don't know.
9:22:23 p.m. -- woohoopens:no roxxis of course not and in fact I think it is great she can choose her sexual preferences. I'm just saying that his platform
9:22:26 p.m. -- Silversun:lol
9:22:32 p.m. -- Piz:Rad, I'd ask each of them to rate the importance of each of the issues on their platforms.
9:22:33 p.m. -- woohoopens:and many of his Republican supporters are anti-gay.
9:23:02 p.m. -- BUSH42000:i will leave this country the day i get neighbors who turn out to be two men
9:23:03 p.m. -- BUSH42000:and are married, look what gore did to this country
9:23:05 p.m. -- Dalios:Errr...hats off
9:23:08 p.m. -- Rum221:eolol-enough of laughing out loud
9:23:15 p.m. -- woohoopens:gay people are just people and if they want to be married they should have benefits just like other married folks.
9:23:19 p.m. -- Dalios:I must say, hands off to the moderator...they must be terribly overwhelmed with messages.. :)
9:23:24 p.m. -- gabbie:Lieberman is a joke! He hides behind his religion
9:23:28 p.m. -- la_bayou:I think we should start a new party REP and DEM
9:23:32 p.m. -- roxxis:we dont see eye to eye on that either woo, but i think it is ridiculous that people bring that up
9:23:37 p.m. -- Dalios:*lol* Moderator, you got my order mixed...heh
9:23:38 p.m. -- Piz:Dalios...agreed!!
9:23:42 p.m. -- coinman:THE ONLY THING I WANT is to be left the hell alone...stay out of my business..
9:23:44 p.m. -- Dalios:hands off = hats off
9:23:47 p.m. -- woohoopens:oh my Bush...where the heck do you live? Hoakytown USA?
9:23:55 p.m. -- Dalios:'My mind is open' can you get more noncommital than that, Lieberman?
9:23:58 p.m. -- goinfishin:social security should have never been touched in the first place, and now they want to try and save it.....had they left it alone, there would be nothing to save\
9:24:01 p.m. -- BUSH42000:that is disgusting, woo, i will refuse to pay taxes if my money goes toward gays and lesbians
9:24:05 p.m. -- woohoopens:You've never had gay neighbors before? No wonder you're having troubles with these things. LOL
9:24:26 p.m. -- BUSH42000:woo, no, but do are married to someone of the same sex
9:24:38 p.m. -- roxxis:marriage beneifits to gays??? how, why,
9:24:45 p.m. -- woohoopens:oh BUSH, you are being so immature. Just because someone has different sexual preference...they pay for YOU and YOUR straight wife/husband.
9:24:47 p.m. -- lamrn:This gay issue is gaining way too much weight here
9:25:07 p.m. -- BUSH42000:woo, you must live in liberalville
9:25:09 p.m. -- roxxis:how do you figure that woo
9:25:15 p.m. -- Rum221:woo-it's not everyone that has had gay neighbors. I would say that is more the exception.
9:25:30 p.m. -- Silversun:I have had gay friends and I don't agree with it but they are still people and I will be the best friend that I can to anyone no matter what there sexual preference is
9:25:33 p.m. -- Dalios:I'm not gay, but... is it such a BIG deal, to say who can love who? Why is it so wrong? (Leave the religious standpoint out of it, please..)
9:25:35 p.m. -- RachelB:I would like to ask each of them "If being rich is so bad, why don't they give all their money to IRS like they ask us to do?"
9:25:47 p.m. -- MODERATOR:Ish, sorry -- resend, accidentally deleted
9:25:51 p.m. -- BUSH42000:so what i will not support the marriage of gay couples, they can be gay, but the gov should not have my money go to them
9:26:11 p.m. -- MODERATOR:A-HEM! And now, a question from one of our guests, Eric Rademacher
9:26:14 p.m. -- rademacher:Anyone ELSE have ONE question you wish was asked tonight?
9:26:15 p.m. -- PegLeg:Boo boo! LOL!
9:26:17 p.m. -- barbcsr:Liberman's closing statement is nauseating!!!!
9:26:19 p.m. -- woohoopens:Really? Well I guess it depends on where you live. I've had gay neighbors, Buddhist neighbors, redneck neighbors and they are ALL Americans. How 'bout that.
9:26:20 p.m. -- coinman:I'm sorry folks but I dont think gays should have any special rights...And I also dont think it racist to think that way..gays are sick and should be hospitalized..No other animal acts that way..
9:26:22 p.m. -- Piz:oh what a question from Bernie!!! Heating things up!
9:26:24 p.m. -- roxxis:woo, my brother was gay, so i if i find their lifestyle offensive, i think i have as much right to say that as anyone
9:26:26 p.m. -- woohoopens:so maybe gays shouldn't give any money for your straight marriages. That's crazy.
9:26:30 p.m. -- BUSH42000:like i said this country is being ruined by liberal philosophy, and bush will put an end to this
9:26:40 p.m. -- MODERATOR:And a question from our other expert guest, Kim Downing:
9:26:43 p.m. -- kimdowning:The debate is almost over . Any issue you wished they had covered or had more information from the VP candidates?
9:26:47 p.m. -- Dalios:Bush4200: They pat taxes just like straight people, they deserve the benefits.. are you going to say disabled people don't deserve sicial security, next?
9:26:58 p.m. -- la_bayou:The exception is that they knew they had gay n
9:26:59 p.m. -- woohoopens:they aren't asking for SPECIAL rights...just the right to be in a partnership with someone they love just like heterosexuals.
9:27:05 p.m. -- Rum221:Why do you want to be VP?
9:27:19 p.m. -- BUSH42000:yeah, i wished they talked more about ending the act of killing innocent babies(genocide)
9:27:33 p.m. -- kimdowning:Rum221 . . . good quesetion.
9:27:35 p.m. -- Silversun:No one really deserves special rights. I think that the rights that were given to us by our Founding Fathers should be enough
9:27:36 p.m. -- roxxis:woo, they do ask for special rights ...absolutely
9:27:39 p.m. -- woohoopens:I wondered when they would get to this about the Hollywood thing.
9:27:51 p.m. -- Silversun:But unfortuneately alot of people don't think the same way
9:27:53 p.m. -- BUSH42000:hey woo where do you live, that way i wil never move there
9:28:03 p.m. -- Dalios:Don't disabled people ask for special rights?
9:28:11 p.m. -- woohoopens:So our Fouding Fathers did not say gays should be excluded...or Buddhists, etc. They said we are FREE.
9:28:12 p.m. -- coinman:Well I will say one thing..If evryone were gay we sure wouldnt have an abortion issue would we..
9:28:15 p.m. -- Rum221:woo-Yea the Hollywood thing would have been good.
9:28:16 p.m. -- barbcsr:Yeah, Mr. Cheney!!!!
9:28:17 p.m. -- PegLeg:I think they have handled the issue of abortion as well as one can in today's world.
9:28:34 p.m. -- Silversun:Yes they did
9:28:44 p.m. -- woohoopens:I wouldn't want you here anyway BUSH...I lived in Pacific Palisades, CA and recently relocated to Pittsburgh area.
9:28:46 p.m. -- BUSH42000:gay married couples? Clinton and gore really messed this country up more than i thought
9:28:57 p.m. -- roxxis:bush42000 dont get so personal, i dont agree with woo either but
9:29:05 p.m. -- woohoopens:BUSH...you are goofy.
9:29:23 p.m. -- DrMega:Did they address the gun issue? If not, I would have liked to see that (if so, I missed it).
9:29:26 p.m. -- BUSH42000:where, im from upper st clair and i will say their are no gay married couples there
9:29:27 p.m. -- Rum221:I don't think the abortion issue should be one. we all have are thought and no canidate is going to chane my thoughts
9:29:38 p.m. -- PegLeg:Haven't addressed guns yet
9:29:46 p.m. -- roxxis:you know, i dont understand why gays get so much chat/arguement time
9:29:48 p.m. -- Silversun:6 MONTHS?
9:29:49 p.m. -- Dalios:Straight married coupled... gay married couples.. both still pay taxes.. THEY BOTH support the welfare of country.. both deserve to be treated equally..
9:29:51 p.m. -- Silversun:That is way to long
9:29:54 p.m. -- PegLeg:Exactly, Rum
9:29:55 p.m. -- woohoopens:death penalty.
9:30:12 p.m. -- roxxis:they are not anywhere in the same category as minorities, blacks, handicapped, etc
9:30:14 p.m. -- woohoopens:I agree wtih Dalios as usual.
9:30:22 p.m. -- roxxis:gays choose what they do
9:30:28 p.m. -- roxxis:the others dont choose
9:30:29 p.m. -- BUSH42000:gays should not be allowed to be married, and we should have capital punishment
9:30:31 p.m. -- Dalios:Do they, Roxxis?
9:30:33 p.m. -- la_bayou:No one asked the question that what I said they need to start asking them some new questions
9:30:35 p.m. -- Rum221:Leiberman just told a big fat one...
9:30:42 p.m. -- kimdowning:Any other issues you would have liked to have covered during this debate?
9:30:46 p.m. -- PegLeg:LOL!
9:30:48 p.m. -- BUSH42000:he is a big fat one
9:30:50 p.m. -- DrMega:Why are married people treated differently anyway? (I think gay married people should have the same rights, btw)
9:31:07 p.m. -- MODERATOR:(Kim Downing is a University of Cincinnati political scientist and is co-director of the University of Cincinnati's Ohio Poll. She has an extensive background in researching presidential debates. She holds a PhD from Rutgers University in New Jersey.)
9:31:10 p.m. -- lamrn:What difference does it make if two married people are opposite sex or not to you out there? It's not something that needs to be so controversial. It's very prejudice and I'm NOT gay!!!!
9:31:11 p.m. -- woohoopens:you can't choose how many chromosomes you were born with. Geeze.
9:31:14 p.m. -- PegLeg:Oh, playing the dead father card... LOW! Blatant plea for votes!
9:31:16 p.m. -- Silversun:Lieberman is working with the sympathy again
9:31:20 p.m. -- debo7:gays are what they are...it's not a "choice"
9:31:22 p.m. -- roxxis:welll, they say they do, because they dont want it to be genetics
9:31:24 p.m. -- Rum221:go bush200
9:31:25 p.m. -- debo7:I agree, DrMega
9:31:30 p.m. -- BUSH42000:gay couple should not have the same rights, back in the days you would live in a looney home
9:31:32 p.m. -- barbcsr:because, drmega, God created Adam and Eve. not---you know the rest
9:31:37 p.m. -- woohoopens:who cares..what does it hurt you...besides, your cheney has a gay daughter. How bout that? I think it's great btw.
9:31:39 p.m. -- l1951:go liberman go!!!
9:31:49 p.m. -- MODERATOR:Keep it clean, please, debo
9:31:51 p.m. -- Rum221:kim-what would you like to hear from these two??
9:31:54 p.m. -- RachelB:Cheny really scored a big one. He just pointed out that Lierberman has flip flopped on many issues.
9:31:56 p.m. -- Dalios:We've fought to overcome discrimination of sex, race, disability.. now we need to grow as a country and accept all sexual orientations..
9:31:58 p.m. -- debo7:go joe go
9:31:59 p.m. -- debo7:see joe go
9:32:01 p.m. -- BUSH42000:woo, you are exactly why this country is the way it is
9:32:03 p.m. -- Piz:Thanks for the chat....bye roomies. Great job Moderator.
9:32:10 p.m. -- MODERATOR:Thanks, Piz
9:32:17 p.m. -- MODERATOR:We chat again Oct. 11 and 17
9:32:25 p.m. -- MODERATOR:While Bush and Gore go at it again.
9:32:45 p.m. -- roxxis:why dalios???
9:32:47 p.m. -- Dalios:Back in the day white people kept slaves.. we proved that was wrong, and abolished it..
9:32:51 p.m. -- woohoopens:I'll never get up in time for work tomorrow.
9:32:56 p.m. -- MODERATOR:bye woo
9:33:00 p.m. -- BUSH42000:for the worse, we need strong conservative principles
9:33:01 p.m. -- BUSH42000:hey moderator who are you voting for
9:33:08 p.m. -- MODERATOR:The moderate, of course
9:33:11 p.m. -- keimii:Bush is the flipper and his family ruined the savings and loan business
9:33:13 p.m. -- DrMega:So I'm an atheist... I shouldn't have the same rights as those good Good-fearing Americans?
9:33:15 p.m. -- woohoopens:I can't believe I spent time arguing with someone who thinks gay people are warped
9:33:16 p.m. -- woohoopens:LOL
9:33:18 p.m. -- coinman:Thhhis was enjoyable..thanks everyone lets do it again..
9:33:24 p.m. -- MODERATOR:Seeya, Coin.
9:33:26 p.m. -- barbcsr:Thanks Mr. Moderator...good job...
9:33:33 p.m. -- MODERATOR:Wow! All this praise.
9:33:35 p.m. -- Dalios:I'll be back... :) Night folks! :)
9:33:36 p.m. -- DrMega:Religion and politics should not mix
9:33:38 p.m. -- woohoopens:yes, great job moderator. Do we get to vote somewhere?
9:33:49 p.m. -- MODERATOR:Survey will be up on the front page of the Web site in 5 minutes
9:33:51 p.m. -- BUSH42000:now lets do that to abortion
9:33:53 p.m. -- sho531:Thanks for the forum moderator bye
9:33:57 p.m. -- MODERATOR:Seeya, Sho.
9:34:00 p.m. -- la_bayou:I think we would find out more if they would get the quetions from the people
9:34:01 p.m. -- roxxis:so, dalios, what was that 'wrong' based on
9:34:03 p.m. -- Rum221:latter moderator. I have to hit the sack. I have to get up to go to work so the government can take it all.
9:34:06 p.m. -- MODERATOR:Gnite Rum
9:34:09 p.m. -- BUSH42000:then i guess you are voting for bush, good pick
9:34:11 p.m. -- woohoopens:great. Thanks. I'll look and then I'm off to bed.
9:34:14 p.m. -- woohoopens:thanks everyone.
9:34:16 p.m. -- keimii:I ama new to this and really enjoyed the format, Thanks to the moderator
9:34:22 p.m. -- MODERATOR:fun for us, too K
9:34:26 p.m. -- Silversun:"With God's help" was his comment but then why does he go against some of the biblical Laws God has set forth?
9:34:27 p.m. -- Dalios:Roxxis, you lost me..repeat what you're asking, fully?
9:34:29 p.m. -- DrMega:la_bayou: agreed
9:35:02 p.m. -- MODERATOR:Thanks to our guest panelists, Kim Downing and Eric Rademacher. They did a great job of keeping us on track. Or tried to at least!
9:35:11 p.m. -- PegLeg:Whoever is the Political Scientist at UC. I have a Poli Sci class tomorrow at UC.
9:35:19 p.m. -- MODERATOR:Kim Downing is a University of Cincinnati political scientist and is co-director of the University of Cincinnati's Ohio Poll. She has an extensive background in researching presidential debates. She holds a PhD from Rutgers University in New Jersey.
9:35:32 p.m. -- MODERATOR:Eric Rademacher is a University of Cincinnati political scientist and is co-director of the University of Cincinnati's Ohio Poll. Rademacher has extensive background on public opinion in Ohio and the U.S. He teaches presidential elections and public opinion at the University of Cincinnati.
9:35:35 p.m. -- coinman:I like dick...And I'm not gay
9:35:37 p.m. -- Silversun:lol
9:35:38 p.m. -- l1951:thank you and good night
9:35:42 p.m. -- PegLeg:Just showing my UC pride!
9:35:43 p.m. -- BUSH42000:yeah, they did a good job if they are republicans
9:35:45 p.m. -- DrMega:Well, thanks Moderator and guests. Time to get back to work...
9:35:46 p.m. -- coinman:nite all
9:35:48 p.m. -- keimii:Remember Bushes fathers administration, half of them were inkited for stealing.
9:35:57 p.m. -- MODERATOR:Who won? Go the front page to vote.
9:36:00 p.m. -- BUSH42000:if she is a professor she is probably a liberal then
9:36:02 p.m. -- Dalios:Go Bearcats!
9:36:04 p.m. -- rademacher:Glad to be here . . . and we're both political scientists at UC. Stop up and see us some time!
9:36:06 p.m. -- PegLeg:Good job moderator and guests. Good Night!
9:36:21 p.m. -- MODERATOR:With that, we out.
9:36:43 p.m. -- MODERATOR:Thanks for participating.